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visitor · Sep 27, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48

my question is simple
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins
oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh"
real comments plz

olly123 · Sep 27, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

because a sin has like 60 armor and thay rush into the middle of combat, its harder for a monk to keep them alive. so it shows the other ppl that there not n00bs and that thay can do stuff as well as getting surviver with the hardest possible character to do it with

Damaris Arcadian · Sep 27, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die.

Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!"

exiled mat · Sep 27, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by Damaris Arcadian

I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die.

Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!"

or: i have good helping friends who have powerleveled me and will get you if you don't like me

Hephaestus Ram · Sep 27, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by visitor

my question is simple
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins
oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh"
real comments plz

Why not? An assassin has as good a chance of surviving in
a battle as any other character. With their shadow skills and
proper selection of a secondary assassins are very good.

I know that at first glance it might seem like say .... a wo/mo
has a much better chance of getting that title. But when you
concider that a wo/mo takes three to four times as long to
make a kill, they can make a battle drag on well past the point
where the groups casters and healers can continue to be
effective.

I generally feel like any battle that takes more than 60 seconds
to complete (PvE of course) to be a failure, wo/mos are
notorious for exceeding that time limit. A good offence is still
the best defence.

Sorry... just noticed that you're a wo/mo... no offence intended.

Hey, that's kind of a little joke.

meowmeow89 · Sep 27, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Cause they want to?

pve-er · Sep 27, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Damaris Arcadian

I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die.

Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!"

I don't think so, Smart? yes, maybe he know when to abandun his fellow teammate, maybe he is smart enough to just pay someone to power level him. but not really that he can kill much ( I don't mean survival title can't kill), not really he is willing to fight to the last minute (which in many case is the only way to win when situation gone bad).
I rather trust a people with exploration or protector title. at lease they will know where to go or how the mission works

lennymon · Sep 27, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Titles are merely an indicator of the person behind the toon at best, but its all you got to go on. If one's entire point is to get survivor on an assassin JUST to get into groups, why not just make a friggin monk and be done with it?
People do it for the challenge and for the bragging rights... but become disenchanted once they die before survivor 2 and also once they discover that nobody else will ever care. Leaving only the challenge.

Tachyon · Sep 27, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by visitor

my question is simple
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins
oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh"
real comments plz

What a crass, inane and poorly grammaticized question. It's called freedom of choice, if someone want's to get the 'Survivor' title with an Assassin then it's up to them and nobody else.

lennymon · Sep 27, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

What an crass, inane and poorly grammaticized question. It's called freedom of choice, if someone want's to get the 'Survivor' title with an Assassin then it's up to them an nobody else.

while your base thesis is sound, not only are you pointlessly rude but you mispelled your and by leaving off the d

Tachyon · Sep 27, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Yeah, that's down to too many FPS games on this notebook. The W, S, A and D keys are slightly dodgy (see knackered) and need to be hit quite hard to register the keystroke.

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 27, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Hmmm.... "Why do people try to get survivor with Assassins?"

Why do people try to get in PvE PUG groups as Mesmers?

Why do Necros try playing builds other than MM or Orders?

WHY NOT? If I were one to enjoy playing an Assassin, then I'd probably want to get a title or two under my belt with that character. Going for the Survivor title as an Asssassin is quite the challenge - when done without the crutch of power leveling.

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 27, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

stupid double post.

Trvth Jvstice · Sep 27, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously.

Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.

icedragon981 · Sep 28, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.

Actually, there's a VERY good green farming A/E build involving shadow form and one of the ele armor skills but I'm not exactly sure on it. But I know it works really well.

Hephaestus Ram · Sep 28, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously.

Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.

You are so narrow minded that it's a safe bet that when you want
to see whats going on in the other room, you just slide your head
up under the door rather than open it.

Assassins are just as good as any other character in the game.

LuckyGiant · Sep 28, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

I think that its more the fact that many people have played the 6 core professions and have no intention of playing them again (as in starting over) and since titles were introduced after probably almost all these characters had died so only the newly created ones have a chance of getting it.

Therefore sins and rts are probably more likely to have the titles, also most core professions probably have better titles to show.

Trvth Jvstice · Sep 28, 2006, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram

You are so narrow minded that it's a safe bet that when you want
to see whats going on in the other room, you just slide your head
up under the door rather than open it.

Assassins are just as good as any other character in the game.

Nooooooooo -I play an Assassin and I love assassins. I was talking about ANY character attempting a survivor title. The way I see it, when someone is after a survivor title, he can NOT die. Even if the group he is playing with is suffering major dmg and really needs everyone attacking, the person going after the title can't risk going in and helping the group because he might die.

I know that when a good Assassin is in a group, he doesn't try to tank or act like a warrior, he zips in and does enormous dmg to his target , then zips out before he takes a lot of dmg.

I apologize if it seemed like I was anti-Assassin. As I said, I love Assassins.

Cicada Sopita · Sep 28, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

At least the first title can easily be gained with just doing quests - no farming needed. Also, since the pve can most of the time be easier with henchies than PUGs, I think that many who are trying to get the survivor wont bother with grouping with other people - and therefore don't mess up anyone else's missions but their own... That's what I did, at least.

Painbringer · Sep 28, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously.

Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.

By just henching and doing area quests you can get Survivor title before the 3rd Mission, and not screw anyone. Solo and kill bugs outside of the Montesary till level 6 (do not accept any rewards till you reach Level 6) then start doing quests. Do all of them on the Island. Do Mission 1. After you finish the Quest which makes you fight an afflicted Assassin Boss (right before going to Mission 2) whoever survives this quest follows your group. So make use of them and go do the Missing son quest and all other quests for the Lagoon area. Now do Mission 2. Watch out for the Dual Necro spikers by the bridge on Mission 2, but to it play safe always have Healing breeze going/ Protective Spirit. (I actually skipped the 2nd attribute quest) I will go back and do it later. I then do all of the quests I can find outside of the market area. They are large Value Exp Quests and mostly running around. When done run to The Kaineg City and start doing quests till you get the title. Use Scrolls if you can all the time.

Sep 27, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48	#1
visitor Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kronos HQ Profession: W/	why sins? my question is simple why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh" real comments plz

Sep 27, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#13
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	stupid double post. Last edited by Kook~NBK~; Sep 27, 2006 at 07:34 PM // 19:34..

Sep 27, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55	#2
olly123 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: sh*tvill england Guild: tgc Profession: Mo/	because a sin has like 60 armor and thay rush into the middle of combat, its harder for a monk to keep them alive. so it shows the other ppl that there not n00bs and that thay can do stuff as well as getting surviver with the hardest possible character to do it with

Sep 27, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07	#3
Damaris Arcadian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: Keepers of the Stars Profession: R/	I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die. Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!"

Sep 27, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44	#6
meowmeow89 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2006	Cause they want to?

Sep 27, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#8
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	Titles are merely an indicator of the person behind the toon at best, but its all you got to go on. If one's entire point is to get survivor on an assassin JUST to get into groups, why not just make a friggin monk and be done with it? People do it for the challenge and for the bragging rights... but become disenchanted once they die before survivor 2 and also once they discover that nobody else will ever care. Leaving only the challenge.

Sep 27, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#11
Tachyon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stoke, England Guild: The Godless [GOD] Profession: W/	Yeah, that's down to too many FPS games on this notebook. The W, S, A and D keys are slightly dodgy (see knackered) and need to be hit quite hard to register the keystroke.

Sep 27, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#12
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Hmmm.... "Why do people try to get survivor with Assassins?" Why do people try to get in PvE PUG groups as Mesmers? Why do Necros try playing builds other than MM or Orders? WHY NOT? If I were one to enjoy playing an Assassin, then I'd probably want to get a title or two under my belt with that character. Going for the Survivor title as an Asssassin is quite the challenge - when done without the crutch of power leveling.

Sep 27, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42	#14
Trvth Jvstice Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Guild: HALE Profession: W/	I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously. Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.

Sep 28, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14	#17
LuckyGiant Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Guild: Retired :)	I think that its more the fact that many people have played the 6 core professions and have no intention of playing them again (as in starting over) and since titles were introduced after probably almost all these characters had died so only the newly created ones have a chance of getting it. Therefore sins and rts are probably more likely to have the titles, also most core professions probably have better titles to show.

Sep 28, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31	#19
Cicada Sopita Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: Me/	At least the first title can easily be gained with just doing quests - no farming needed. Also, since the pve can most of the time be easier with henchies than PUGs, I think that many who are trying to get the survivor wont bother with grouping with other people - and therefore don't mess up anyone else's missions but their own... That's what I did, at least.